Some Ideas…Would Appreciate Comment

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->This is my first post to this group so these ideas may have been >previously discussed. However, I’d appreciate the comments and >thoughts of others on a couple of ideas.  I should state upfront that >I am not technical nor scientific by profession, but rather just a >thinker and interested citizen. > Welcome aboard! >Recently, while in deep thought about possible renewable, clean >sources of human energy, I came up with two possible sources:  The >rotation of the earth and the power of ocean waves.  It occurred to me >that the rotation of the earth must create a great deal of energy. >I’m not speaking necessarily about the electromagnetic energy produced >(although I am aware it has long been an area of research), but more >the actual physical, mechanical energy the rapid rotation of a body as >large as the earth must create. > The rotation of the Earth produces zero energy.  The world spins due to > conservation of energy and angular momentum.  However, because the Earth > is spinning, energy can be extracted by forcing it to spin slower.  This > is not renewable, but is happenning anyway, due to tidal action.  So long > as the day is not too short by the time the sun engulfs the Earth, we will > be alright.  To extract energy from the rotating Earth, we must have something > that is not spinning as fast as the Earth, and have our machinery somehow > bridge the gap.  There are two ways of doing this: 1) tidal action, 2) wind. > The sun and moon’s tug on the oceans creates tidal bulges that try to > remain lined up along the axis of their combined gravitational tug and the > rotation of the Earth sets up coriolus effects that create ocean currents > and winds. > So, your idea is not new, merely an idea whose time has yet to come, but it > is important that these ideas continue to pop up, so they will pop up when > needed (the first fax machine was built in 1852, but noone needed it).

Thank you for your response.  As I said my technical knowledge is limited…I’m more of a thinker.  Do you have any ideas on how the slowing might be achieved and what the possible environmental effects might be?  Could enough energy be extracted from the process to make worthwhile?  Very interesting about the fax machine.  I never knew that.  I sometimes wonder if there are many good ideas circulating that could produce much good and prosperity but established interests have…well…a vested interest…in maintaining the status quo until change is forced by lack of resources (fossil fuels run out) to continue with a technology or at least until they can control and profit from the change.

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>This is my first post to this group so these ideas may have been >previously discussed. However, I’d appreciate the comments and >thoughts of others on a couple of ideas.  I should state upfront that >I am not technical nor scientific by profession, but rather just a >thinker and interested citizen.

Welcome aboard! >Recently, while in deep thought about possible renewable, clean >sources of human energy, I came up with two possible sources:  The >rotation of the earth and the power of ocean waves.  It occurred to me >that the rotation of the earth must create a great deal of energy. >I’m not speaking necessarily about the electromagnetic energy produced >(although I am aware it has long been an area of research), but more >the actual physical, mechanical energy the rapid rotation of a body as >large as the earth must create.

The rotation of the Earth produces zero energy.  The world spins due to conservation of energy and angular momentum.  However, because the Earth is spinning, energy can be extracted by forcing it to spin slower.  This is not renewable, but is happenning anyway, due to tidal action.  So long as the day is not too short by the time the sun engulfs the Earth, we will be alright.  To extract energy from the rotating Earth, we must have something that is not spinning as fast as the Earth, and have our machinery somehow bridge the gap.  There are two ways of doing this: 1) tidal action, 2) wind. The sun and moon’s tug on the oceans creates tidal bulges that try to remain lined up along the axis of their combined gravitational tug and the rotation of the Earth sets up coriolus effects that create ocean currents and winds. So, your idea is not new, merely an idea whose time has yet to come, but it is important that these ideas continue to pop up, so they will pop up when needed (the first fax machine was built in 1852, but noone needed it).

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This is my first post to this group so these ideas may have been previously discussed. However, I’d appreciate the comments and thoughts of others on a couple of ideas.  I should state upfront that I am not technical nor scientific by profession, but rather just a thinker and interested citizen. Recently, while in deep thought about possible renewable, clean sources of human energy, I came up with two possible sources:  The rotation of the earth and the power of ocean waves.  It occurred to me that the rotation of the earth must create a great deal of energy. I’m not speaking necessarily about the electromagnetic energy produced (although I am aware it has long been an area of research), but more the actual physical, mechanical energy the rapid rotation of a body as large as the earth must create. Similarly, it occurred to me that the wave actions of the world’s seas and oceans produce enormous amounts of energy.  Particularly in mid-Ocean the rising and falling of huge waves again could be a source of energy either to drive turbines to create electricity or by somehow harnessing the power directly. I’m wondering: 1) Is anyone aware of research into either of these possibilities and the present stage of progress? 2) Does anyone, with some scientific knowledge, believe such ideas would hold any potential application or would technically feasible in the near or long term? Some personal research on the Internet a few months ago yielded some information, which I’ve now sadly misplaced, about a scientist in Sweden? back in the 1950’s who proposed and the idea of using the physical energy created by the earth’s rotation as an energy source. I was heartened that my idea was not so far out there that no one else had conceived it. I’d appreciate anyone’s thoughts on these ideas.  I’m not interested nor capable of developing technology from these concepts, but would like to discuss and offer ideas to anyone who might see potential in them.

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